Automated inbetweening

[sykosan]

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[Fabrice]

Is there a way to see the steps of the project, I mean : at least the drawings / colors / shadows used before interpolation ?

I mean : did you draw the lines, the colors using the paint bucket ? Then the shadows with a mask ? Then finally apply the inbetweening process with a single button ?
Or was the process calculating all colors and shadows + missing frames by interpolation ?

Without more informations, it's not easy to have an exact idea.

[Elodie]

Yes I used the technique on some professional work.
Most recent job is this music video, although there is also some After Effects’ puppet tool animations in there:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrLKi7-06ic" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Other stuff :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRTQy9nqvec" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxk8vCnJfgk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

But your videos are still very short. Even the video clip about Jesus' birth contains many re-used scenes.

I mean, at the moment, it gives me the feeling that it's so complicate and "time-eater" to use your technique that you cannot produce longer project.

[slowtiger]

Unfortunately I can’t show you more because that remains confidential

Sorry, I don't believe you. All possible solutions in the field have been described openly and in detail, there's a bunch of videos online which show the different approaches in a way that the principles are explained clearly. As long as you don't act up to those standards, I don't believe in the originality of your idea (and will, eventually, call "bullshit").

[sykosan]

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[ematecki]

If it doesn't need much user interaction, it shouldn't be too hard to implement it as a plugin for TVPaint...

[Paul Fierlinger]

If it doesn't need much user interaction, it shouldn't be too hard to implement it as a plugin for TVPaint...

That's good, but If it doesn't need much human interaction it is worthless as art.

[idragosani]

To be honest, the examples still look very computer-generated and I see no difference from the kind of animation produced by Flash, ToonBoom or Anime Studio.

[neonnoodle]

If it doesn't need much user interaction, it shouldn't be too hard to implement it as a plugin for TVPaint...

Sykosan, depending upon the price and features, I'd be willing to pay for your system as a standalone plugin.

[sykosan]

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[ZigOtto]

let me guess ... hmm ... maybe a Z-depth deformation ..?

anyway, it could be time-saving for elementary (and short) stuff,
but as soon as your source is more complex, separating and managing dozen of planes
would quickly become a nightmare I think ...

anyway, for the ones who need a perfect fluidity and stability with slow-motion animation,
it could be a good tool to have in your arsenal.

[Paul Fierlinger]

In my experience, and from what I have observed in the samples of others, it is not a good idea to mix both mechanical fluidity and organic drawings together, with perhaps the exception of technical films, though I think it can look dilettantish even in those films.

But to be clear, I am not attempting to stand in anyone's way to see this happen (nor do I even have the power to do so). I am just expressing how unappealing I think the examples in this thread look to begin with. I also hope to see this thing implemented only after we get a way to reverse the order of frames without having the redundancy of seeing the last original frame tagged on to the end of the reversed order.

[slowtiger]

OK, here's a way to keep your precious confidentiality while showing a bit more. I did two fast drawings and challenge you to inbetween them. Nothing fancy, just my usual style, nothing difficult for a human inbetweener.

If you can do that, I might get interested. At least you could demonstrate how you break up a drawing like this, if necessary (and I'll get an idea wether it will fit my style and workflow or not.).

[Mads Juul]

This is getting interesting

[sykosan]

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