Mistakes in the user guide

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Re: Mistakes in the user guide

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D.T. Nethery wrote: but the "little house" illustration is used so much in the manual that the new user's eyes tend to skip over it .
Hmm, you're not wrong.
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Re: Mistakes in the user guide

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Where can I download the NEW 10.5.1 user manuals???
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Re: Mistakes in the user guide

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Wait a little, it's not available yet.

Don't forget TVPaint 10.5 is not officially released. Everything will be ready next week ;)
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Elodie wrote:Wait a little, it's not available yet.

Don't forget TVPaint 10.5 is not officially released. Everything will be ready next week ;)
Ooops! sorry about that. :oops:
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Re: Mistakes in the user guide

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Out-of-Pegs is difficult for the new user to understand from the explanation in the User Manual on page 155 - 157 . At the end the user manual explanation leaves out a step , where the newly drawn Inbetween must be shifted into the correct position between the two Extremes by using the Transform Tool to position it in the desired spacing , whether 1/2 way in the middle or 1/3 or 2/3 if it is supposed to favor one or the other Extreme.
TVP_User_Manual_Out_of_Pegs.jpg


If both Extremes have been precisely shifted an equal distance then clicking on X (or actually "Reset" as it now named in TVP 10.5) then the new Inbetween will be correctly positioned 1/2 way in the middle , but if only one of the Extremes was shifted then the new Inbetween will be positioned favoring one Extreme or the other . The user must use the Transform Tool to shift the new Inbetween to 1/2 way in the middle.

The better default behavior would be that the new Inbetween is always automatically positioned exactly 1/2 way between the two extremes , then if the user desires that the new Inbetween should favor one or the other Extreme the user can re-position it with with the Transform Tool. But the current explanation in the User Manual is not clear on this procedure.

This is a function in TVPaint that needs a detailed video tutorial .


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Re: Mistakes in the user guide

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Elodie wrote:Wait a little, it's not available yet.

Don't forget TVPaint 10.5 is not officially released. Everything will be ready next week ;)

Just to clarify: is the TVPaint 10.5 manual available for download ?
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Re: Mistakes in the user guide

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yes it is :)
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Re: Mistakes in the user guide

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D.T. Nethery wrote:Section 6-10 of the user manual on using Peg Holes Registration says:
"To use this function, just open the Window > Utilities > Peg-holes registration".
but this path is incorrect.

It should be Windows > Tools > Peg-Holes Registration


This mistake is still in the new User Manual for version 10.5 , page 6-10.

The path to find Peg Holes Registration should be Windows > Tools > Peg Holes Registration

not "Utilities > Peg Holes Registration"




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Re: Mistakes in the user guide

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Fixed ! :D
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Don't know if anyone asked this, but please add links in the Table of Contents, that can take us directly to the page! The bookmarks tab doesn't help because of several reasons: it's not searchable in Acrobat and there are no Lesson and page numbers and don't represent the same naming like in Table of Contents (which also must be added).
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Ok ;)
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[Documentation - TVPaint 11] : mistakes and improvements

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Under "George Scripting/A Few Useful Options" in the documentation >> HERE << the Pause command is used to demonstrate some George rules of syntax. Problem is, the Pause command doesn't work (at least it never has worked for me). Maybe some other George command should be used in its place?

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Re: [Documentation - TVPaint 11] : mistakes and improvements

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Thank you for your message.

I've created a topic dedicated to Doc mistakes. When we will release TVPaint 11, we will merge it with this topic : http://forum.tvpaint.com/viewtopic.php? ... =10&t=6883" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: TVPaint 11 : Website and User Guide

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I think in the drawing Panels what is missing an explanation of the relationship between the main and the tool panel.
these two should be underneath each other ( the color palette is more separate)
and the main panel is NOT "used to draw segments, ellipses, rectangles, curves... Brush selection and cutting options are also available here."
i think it should be more in this direction(sketch below) getting it right is a lot of work though



The main panel is where you select what kind of task you want to perform,
Selecting any of the folowing options from the mainpanel will result in having the relevant settings for that task in the corresponding toolpanel.
you can choose:
-a method to apply drawingtools e.g: freehand lines, straight lines, elipses, splines. this choice will give you the drawing tools in the Toolpanel
-any fill option like freehandfill(filledstroke), filledline, filled rectangl and the floodfill/PaintbucketLocalisation weaknes! tool will give you the filling shape settings in the toolpanel
-one of the numerous versions of the custombrushtool
-a selection tool,
-a method of modifying the present project content by selecting either the panning, transform warp or perspective tool
-to open the camera, >tool:camera
all of these tasks can be configured according to your liking with the many setting options in their corresponding tool Panel

these mainpanel options don't have a toolpanel:
-the zoomtools, to access the various zoomtools for navigating the projectview(navigator)
-CLR (clear) is a one action button. it clears the selected image(s)
-toolhistory
-Paper, click to activate a paper rightclick to set and select a paper in the paperpanel
-stencilswitch
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Re: TVPaint 11 : Website and User Guide

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Regarding the User Guide:
Not sure the "TVP Pro" icon (pro-only features) needs to be as big a button (smaller + blink?) and all the text related to shortcuts could be in another colour to be unmistakable (and linked).

A few minor typo from the FRENCH version, Partie 1:

#Intro
Guide de d’installation

#Les différents panneaux/Barre d'outils:
Charger un project
La Timeline, expliqué<-e en leçon X


#Les différents panneaux/Tiroirs:
Avec cette fonctionnalité, l'espace de travail devient totalement "propre". <- j'éviterais cette utilisation dans une doc pour l'aspect dévalorisant. Favoriser l'idée de ranger, ordonner, organiser,... ?

#Travailler avec les projets/Créer un projet:
TVPaint Animation prend en charge tous les formats standards
Une petite fenêtre jaune vous donnera les indications dont vous avez besoin.


#Aide
Vous pouvez désactivée
Sinon, est-ce que le terme "aide en ligne" est bien pertinent maintenant que le "manuel en ligne" existe ? A mon avis, il y a vraiment un risque de quiproquo pour le support :)

#Préférences/Interface
L'option Fenêtres permet d’imposer un Magnétisme (...)

#Les Tiroirs/Introduction
L'idée derrière les Tiroirs est de “nettoyer” l'interface de TVPaint Animation. <- Cette première phrase donne l'impression qu'il y a un soucis avec l'interface et que c'est à l'utilisateur de faire sa tambouille afin d'amméliorer son confort :) Alors que les phrases suivantes définissent très bien le concept et suffisent.

#Les Tiroirs/Travailler avec les tiroirs
Travailler avec les toroirs (titre)
Une dernière option des Tiroirs permet d'avoir un espace de travail encore plus “propre”, il s'agit du triangle en haut des Tiroirs.

Il y a plusieurs "un Tiroirs"

#Les Tiroirs/Exceptions
Pour changer la fenêtre flottante en fenêtre fixe, il suffit de cliquer sur le triangle à droite dans la barre de titre.
Comme pour les Tiroirs, cette option est représentée par la même icône en forme de triangle en haut à droite de la fenêtre de la Timeline.


Keep up the good work guys :)
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