i do think it would help to take them more seriously.
If I was not taking Sharkcellar's post seriously, I wouldn't have taken the time to answer him and ask him more details than just "I don't like"
My last sentence "the fact you prefer to color in a software mainly made to retouch photographs instead of an animating / painting software is interesting" was sincere and serious curiosity.
When I was a student and discovered TVPaint, my group and I immediately decided to use it for our graduation film. We finished our film with 1 week in advance, without doing sleepless nights.
I knew maybe just 10% of the software capabilities, but I still remember I thought my other fellow students were very dumb to spend hours to paint 1 image, while I could paint a sequence in the same time (with the same quality of result).
Since those days, each time I read someone animates on TVPaint but paint on Photoshop, I sincerely don't understand why.
(And each time I ask "why", I'm answered "because" or "I don't like to paint with TVPaint", which are not accurate answers for me
Peter Wassink wrote:i believe that TVPaints tools are potentially more powerful but they are also harder to control.
I don't disagree with you
When I was a student, I didn't understand the difference between the Tool bin (= custom panel) and Tool panel (a way to configure different category of tools)
Peter Wassink wrote:but then when you start to paint with the picked color it outputs a color that appears very different from the sampled one.
this has to do with how some custom paint tools use a combination of A and B color etc... of course once you know you can figure out ways to deal with it but... in the end... you cannot call it intuitive.
Sure, I agree : but the behavior you describe means 2 possibilities :
• you used some custom brushes from the tool bin (which are hidden by default).
• you succeeded to create a custom brush with different colors / hues etc...
• you maybe modified the color mode and used the Alpha Diff mode
• you also changed the stamp mode of your custom brush and used, for example, the Luma mode
I mean, the problem you describe is true, but it means also you went deeper in the software to have this peculiar problem.
If you just try with a simple airbrush, the way you pick up colors to paint a gradient is not that different from Photoshop.
What do you propose to make thing easier ?
I use Photoshop, as does MANY, for illustration (it's the industry standard in the concept art field) and disparaging it because it is, on paper, a photo editing software, is quite a bit disingenuous as it has more than proven itself to be much more than that.
Sorry, looks like I didn't express myself properly (English is not our native language ^^)
I'm truly fascinated of Photoshop's or even Flash's fame : these both software had dedicated purposes (retouch photographs / animation for websites) and users bypassed their features for other jobs.
Photoshop is now used to paint and draw (and now, to make "animation") / Flash is used in the animation market to do TV series.
That's at the same time senseless and fascinating to me.
Following that logic why should I expect an animation program to be as rich a graphics editor as Photoshop?
TVPaint was firstly created as a painting software
Then, 5 years after its first released it became an animation software.
sharkcellar wrote:I stand corrected on the lack of there being a magic wand. Thank you.
What I meant by sizing the brush was specifically the Z command. I don't like how you have to select ESC to get out of it if you decide that you don't need it. I also don't like how it is not "spring loaded", but a sort of toggle.
I suppose you would prefer then a "floating" command ? I mean : you hold "Z" = > you can change the size | you drop Z => you can't change the size anymore.
A little like the color picker with ALT in Photoshop ?
In a way, I agree a lot with you : for Z, for the color picker and other features.... : I would really like to have "floating / toggling" keys, but it's not possible with the current architecture =/
sharkcellar wrote:What I meant by duplicating is, say I have something selected with the Transform tool. Can I duplicate that selection by holding down the ALT key and moving the object? It doesn't appear that I can. Am I missing something?
Ah Ha ! I understand now the problem !
Photoshop users are very depending on selection and transform tool. So when they use TVPaint, they expect the same behavior.
In TVPaint, the equivalent of selection and transform tool is the "custom brush tool" :
With that tool, you may cut a zone on the drawing space and automatically turn it into a kind of stamp / brush.
This stamp can be moved, re-apply at the same place, rotated (by using C), rescaled (with Z), flipped (with Y or X) etc...
I use it quite a lot when I'm drawing, to move a part from a drawing for example.
I was messing around with the "Large Paint Brush" in the Painting tools collection. At first I thought it was cool, as I liked the oil-like texture and blending. The non-intuitive part came about when I wanted to try to tone down the characteristics of the brush to behave more conservatively (not change hue and saturation so much with the strokes)
Custom brushes from the Tool bin are examples of what you can do with TVPaint once you master the brush engine.
A custom brush is made from a scribble you drawn on the drawing area.
This scribble may contain several colors, hue, luminosity and transparency values.
Once you cut your scribble, here is the result :
If I click on the "Origin" button, you may access the "stamp modes" :
These modes combine the different original color values from your stamp / brush with colors from the Palette
Some examples with Large Paint Brush :
So, in your case, I advise you to use the "Alpha" mode or keep the "Luma" mode, but use the same A & B color.
sharkcellar wrote:I do really like the paint bucket's feature of using the layer above as a reference to quickly fill an area that exists on another layer.
Thanks ! You should also try the Fill inside option
I love the power of TVP for doing my "pencil test", nothing else comes close.
Thank you again :]